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Post by Dorothy Hui on Sept 16, 2016 1:58:49 GMT
What really gets me is how Carrie got a question directed at her about OG Bruxelles leaving and asking if she should be worried.
I mean, the OG Bruxelles left in the game both turned against the OG Bruxelles currently on the jury. If we see Julia or Carrie in a couple of hours, I guess it's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by Cody Calafiore on Sept 16, 2016 3:53:06 GMT
colton haynes <3
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Post by Natalie Anderson on Sept 16, 2016 4:13:42 GMT
Ian </3 Sorry to see you here  Pokemon NO  |
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Post by Jasmine Trias on Sept 16, 2016 9:55:02 GMT
Oh hell no Ian |
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Post by Ian Rosenberger on Sept 16, 2016 19:57:02 GMT
Nat's assessment on the first three merge rounds is pretty spot on. Here's what happened at Final 7 and 6 from my perspective.
Final 7 when Jaclyn was exiled again (seriously how lucky is this bitch) I honestly thought I was fucked and my ONLY shot was to get the votes on Dustin. I begged and pleaded with Julia to get rid of the person who is actually targeting her over me and she hemmed and hawwed. Carrie was her usual enigma. Tim was as fucking vague as he always is. Dorothy told me she's voting for me which I respected. And Dustin was obviously voting for me. What Tim claimed to me after the vote reveal was that he campaigned a LOT with Julia and Carrie to vote Dorothy off and that he convinced them that she had the exile idol. That along with the argument of Dorothy beating everyone left in the game at FTC was enough to sway them. He claims it was a very last minute thing but it's Tim. I have no idea what's real and what isn't with him.
At final 6 Dustin was the most probable boot but when he won immunity/exile I was pretty convinced I was fucked. Tim had told me at the start of the round that he has 2 idols. He never told me that the idols can be played through 4 (which makes sense from his perspective to not tell me since that meant he was going to save them for the next 2 rounds). So my only hope was to get him to play one on me. He and I both knew the vote would be on me and not him. We had also promised each other that we'd never vote the other out. He ultimately broke that promise even though his vote didn't matter which is a little shitty but ehh. I did not try to campaign to Julia or Jaclyn whatsoever. Carrie was busy with some RL stuff to even talk about anything at all but I had made up my mind when the round began that I wouldn't campaign to stay if Dustin won immunity. Instead I used yesterday to troll/initiate ANY conversation at all with Jaclyn and to just try talking to Julia to figure out exactly why I liked Julia so much. And of course most of my time was spent talking in circles with Tim who has got to be the most frustrating and confusing ally I have ever had. So glad it's over tbh.
Just some stray thoughts on the Final 5:
Dustin - Extremely likable guy. My own relationship with him went downhill really fast and really bad. Looks like he wins the game if he immunity runs it to the end. But everyone in the game knows that so the moment he isn't immune, he's toast.
Carrie - Sweet person. But a follower whose activity I just can't reward. There aren't 2 other people who I out and dislike more than her so she's not getting my vote at this stage.
Jaclyn - UGH. I am sure we have all heard the term "gamebot" before. Jaclyn is the biggest and the closest thing to an actual living bot in this game in my experience. I HATED her. I still hate her. I will most definitely be trolling her in my jury question to her.
Tim - Fucking awful ally. But he played the best pure strategic game in this merge imo. He has my vote over everyone at the end but I am going to make him suffer through thinking that he lost my vote when he gets to FTC.
Julia - I am still very conflicted on how I feel about Julia as a person. Her game has been super cutthroat and risky which I don't think will work out for her. I would vote her if Tim is not at FTC (which if he has 2 idols then Tim is a lock for FTC). Much like with Tim I don't know what was real and what was fake with Julia.
I think the next comp will be quotes. Both Dustin and Tim have the advantage of being on a tribe with the Amsterdam people who Julia, Carrie, Jaclyn never got to meet so they have the edge. I think Dustin wins this comp and we see Julia eliminated (likely idoled out by Tim). Tim doesn't NEED the FIC win but Tim knows that Dustin would sweep the jury so he's gonna try his absolute hardest to beat Dustin and boot him before FTC. I think Tim WANTS to win the most so I would give him the edge there but if Dustin does win FIC then I'd say Carrie would get the boot. I would be extremely shocked if Jaclyn is ever targeted but hey I was VERY unaware of the dynamics in the game so maybe I'll be surprised here again.
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Post by Natalie Anderson on Sept 16, 2016 23:27:08 GMT
I know how people feel about Julia, and I don't want to get like rocks or tomatoes thrown at me, but with my understanding of Dustin's relationship with Dorothy and Burnie, and what Ian has said about both of them as well to me and in this Jury board, if I was Julia I would be nervous too about where you 2 were actually aligned and if she was no longer a key member in your alliance. So I think how lovely dovie Dorothy and Burnie are being towards Dustin and Ian and vice versa are kind of proving Julia's motives correct. I know you guys knew you were Final 3, but how is she supposed to know that with Dustin and Ian professing their love for you 2 all the time. I obvs don't know the conversations Burnie/Dorothy/Julia had but that is just from an outsiders perspective I totally get why she did what she did.
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Post by Ian Rosenberger on Sept 17, 2016 0:34:07 GMT
I know how people feel about Julia, and I don't want to get like rocks or tomatoes thrown at me, but with my understanding of Dustin's relationship with Dorothy and Burnie, and what Ian has said about both of them as well to me and in this Jury board, if I was Julia I would be nervous too about where you 2 were actually aligned and if she was no longer a key member in your alliance. So I think how lovely dovie Dorothy and Burnie are being towards Dustin and Ian and vice versa are kind of proving Julia's motives correct. I know you guys knew you were Final 3, but how is she supposed to know that with Dustin and Ian professing their love for you 2 all the time. I obvs don't know the conversations Burnie/Dorothy/Julia had but that is just from an outsiders perspective I totally get why she did what she did. |
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Post by Natalie Anderson on Sept 17, 2016 2:24:19 GMT
Yes that makes sense, and I do agree with that. I feel like her move to get Burnie out was just based on what we discussed as her perception, but then she just let Tim control the next two/three boots even though it may not be what is best for her.
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Post by Dorothy Hui on Sept 17, 2016 4:01:58 GMT
I know how people feel about Julia, and I don't want to get like rocks or tomatoes thrown at me, but with my understanding of Dustin's relationship with Dorothy and Burnie, and what Ian has said about both of them as well to me and in this Jury board, if I was Julia I would be nervous too about where you 2 were actually aligned and if she was no longer a key member in your alliance. So I think how lovely dovie Dorothy and Burnie are being towards Dustin and Ian and vice versa are kind of proving Julia's motives correct. I know you guys knew you were Final 3, but how is she supposed to know that with Dustin and Ian professing their love for you 2 all the time. I obvs don't know the conversations Burnie/Dorothy/Julia had but that is just from an outsiders perspective I totally get why she did what she did. I can totally understand that train of thought, and I obviously can't speak for Burnie, but I was never, ever going to go against that Final 3 I had with Burnie/Julia. It wasn't just because we had the OG Bruxelles connection and it made sense for us to stick together and have each other's backs - I thought there was a real, legitimate bond between the three of us that none of us took lightly. I bonded with the two of them faster and stronger than anyone else on OG Bruxelles, and I thought the two of them felt the same as I did. When I give my word to someone that I've bonded with on the level, I wouldn't break it lightly. I would have been happy if that F3 happened because even if I couldn't win, then someone I worked with the whole time and someone I respected could win instead. When we swapped, all of us had connections with Dustin, Ian and Tim because all of us wanted the same things at the time, and we all personally got along. I don't know if Julia was nervous that Burnie and I seemed to connect stronger with them than she was at the time - I don't even know if that's what her line of thinking was. Maybe Ian could talk more about how he perceived Julia at that time, but I thought we were all bonding more or less on the same levels. Maybe Julia disagreed, but if she did, she NEVER brought it up to Burnie or I. She never asked for reassurance because I think the two of us pretty regularly gave it just through our regular interactions. But that's just it - as much as I like Dustin, Ian and Tim, I wasn't going to toss Burnie or Julia overboard to jump ship to them. One of the reasons Burnie and I wanted to blindside Tim at F8 was because we suspected he had at least one idol, no matter how much he denied it. I also wanted to vote Tim when the opportunity presented itself because I thought if OG Bruxelles could make it to F7, then we could have had numbers to do more or less how we pleased if Carrie still would have been tight with us, too. It wouldn't have been the best feeling in the world if that's how it would have went down, but I intended to honor that F3 to the end because I believed that strongly in our trio. Julia had no reason to worry as much as she did, never once expressed any iota of worry or concern to Burnie or mine's faces, and yet she STILL led the charge to vote Burnie out, and then didn't say a fucking word to me in the hours leading to my own elimination when she knew better than anyone that I had no idols I could have saved myself with. I think I feel so betrayed by Julia because I would never have done the same thing to her. I think she did what she did out of greed. I hardly expect anyone in the game to just roll over and die if they think they're in a position where they can't win, but at F9, ANYTHING can happen. None of us are soothsayers. Who knows what the jury reaction would have been to a Julia/Burnie/Dorothy F3? I can't fault Julia for wanting to play to win, but I CAN fault her for the feeling of personal betrayal as a result of her actions. She gave me no reason to believe her apologies to me after I came back from Exile to Burnie's blindside were in any way legitimate. She cared more about victory than she did about the friendship I thought we formed. She's not the person I thought she was, and it sucks. I'm still burned up about it thinking about how she's handled everything. We went from late nights talking about our lives and our goals to...what? Did she always just think of me and Burnie as tools to be discarded? I feel incredibly disrespected by her, duped into thinking she was really being my friend and in the end, she saw me more as a obstacle to be jumped over than as a person with feelings. I REFUSE to reward her for the way she's made me feel. I can't stop anyone else from voting for her if she makes the end, but I simply can't do it. I won't. And yeah, I formed really great bonds with Ian and Dustin too, and I won't dispute anyone who wants to call me a hypocrite because I would have had to vote them out to make my preferred F3 a reality. In another time, another life, maybe we could have started on original tribes together and became ride-or-die before anyone else, but it wasn't in this life. For better or for worse, I wanted to stick with the two people I gave my word to first...and for two out of the three of us, it turned out to be a mistake. Did any of that make sense? I feel like I just rambled on for a billion paragraphs. |
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Post by Kathy Vavrick O’Brien on Sept 17, 2016 4:41:47 GMT
rip bae
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Post by Natalie Anderson on Sept 17, 2016 5:14:04 GMT
Yes made sense  I just like discussing things and wanted to shed more light on to that topic since I only know what I saw from my perspective, and wanted to delve a little deeper on your/burnie's side so thanks for sharing! I love nothing more than an open jury discussion, so didn't want us all to just sit here waiting for the finale like boring dejected people. We are more interesting than that! |
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Post by Ian Rosenberger on Sept 17, 2016 18:00:27 GMT
I am curious to know Julia's approach to the idols. Does she truly believe Burnie and Dorothy had one each? Or does she not care that Tim could have one or even 2. Because yes although it is extremely hard to plan in advance for an immunity run/idol play, what is Julia expecting will happen in case Dustin wins immunity at Final 5. Does she expect Tim and Carrie to vote with her against Jac? Or is she going to have Carrie and Jac vote Tim and hope for the best? I don't think either scenario will work. However, if Dustin isn't immune at Final 5 then she's set. Carrie will most likely tie the vote for her at the F4TC.
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Post by Natalie Anderson on Sept 18, 2016 6:56:58 GMT
Figured I would attempt the challenge to see...Some of these are so generic it's touugh, but this is my guess.
1. It looked like some cocaine fueled orgy had taken place in there.
Kathy
2. I feel like I'm really pushing my ideas on the team so if we aren't judged as the best because of them, then I'm a goner.
Tom
3. If i had to pick who i wanted out right now i would pick austin just because he seems derpy to me and i feel like we could use the excuse that he was last with his torch to just send him home, but the other part of me wants to play dumb with austin because i already have him thinking im alone and in the dark. maybe if im lucky hes one of those players who thinks they own me, because we all know how that really goes lol.
Tiffany
4. Ugh and here I was coming into this game thinking I'm gonna be the emotional wreck........ It turns out I'm the therapist
Tiffany
5. This thread is more of a stream of concsiousness kinda thing. I have an idea for episodic confessionals which could be a little time consuming the way I am thinking of it so IDK if I'll be punctual with those. This will serve as a place where I can add blurbs from time to time without thinking too much about it.
Ian
6. fucking christ this tribe is a mess
Cody
7. My goal this game is to have people to procieve me as someone that if you say the wrong shit to your games gettin blown up.
Adrienne
8. We agreed to vote Tiffany off the night before Tribal, and then the next day he and Tiff get into a fight and he is like "That's it we are voting Tiff off. She tried to target me and blew up her game, it's her own fault." I'm like didn't we agree to vote her off last night already so how does what happened today change anything, unless you were working together and just lying to us until this blow up happened.
Natalie
9. I'm hoping it won't be too much trouble? WE WILL SEE THOUGH. For now I am stuck here for the next 3 days contemplating existence. Maybe I should forge an exile alliance as a Tocantins throwback for fun?
Holly
10. After first tribal council Tom just destroyed himself when he voted for Adrianne....how stupid.
He came to me and told me that he wants to get rid off Adrianne. I was like "Hahaha bitch please I am not going to vote for Adrianne. Are you super crazy and stupid? I am going to vote for you dumbie. so shut the fuck up!
Vivica
11. If this will work out then I really am QUEEN! But I think that this will probably not work and I will go home. Well at least I tried really EVERYTHING and I will leave proud. If Iwill not leave then they made a mistake and Iwill lie more and more hahahahaha
Jasmine
12. I've decided that Tim is like officially super boring, and I'd like to see him leave next.
Holly
13.
Daniele
14. Okay lol my wifi wasnt working yesterday when I needed it most for the challenge brilliant...
Now I dont feel safe at all. I mean I am sure I can work my flower power and send someone else home. I will try do something evil. If it will not work then I will go home. It is okay but I will not leave without fight.
Mackenzie
15. Hey yes I still exist!!! (Shocking I’m sure.) I know I haven’t given y’all a TON to work with, but I don’t REALLY have my usual stuff to talk about. Like typically I like to talk about where my game is at this moment and how I want to progress, but since I’m REALLY angling for that under the radar social type gameplay, that...hasn’t come up. Like at all.
Burnie
16. Tiffany was super sketchy and was trying to play us all against each other. And Holly was just fucking crazy lmao. Like, she told people that she didn't like me and then had the gall to ask for my vote. Sure, when she got pissy at me after the vote she said that she was ~just faking it~ but LMAO I don't buy that one bit.
Cody
17. I got the tribe clue which sucks, because I already knew the clue and already knew it was gone :/. The one positive though is that I know Dustin told me the correct clue and didn't lie to me. So that makes me feel a little better seeing him again in the merge.
Natalie
18. Sure I'd LOVE to win but like LOLNOPE. I ain't winning this shit. I'd love to play for Dorothy to win but as it always happens, I will be backstabbed by her in lieu of a different ally who won't actually be able to help her get to the end whereas I may realsitically be able to help Dorothy make FTC.
Ian
19. i am hoping people jump on board but i some how feel people might be lazy and vote me the bum bum master
Tom
20. On to Holly. I just got the are you being legit with me paragraph. Because I guess I'm a super popular gal.....
Amber
21. Speaking of confidence let us talk about that gosh darn Idol clue that is driving me insane. Now Katia knows me better then most people in this world, she knew I would obsessively plug in randomness over and over again.... FAIL FAIL FAIL... I have a better chance of finding Pikachu.
Dorothy
22. "I think I'm going because somebody wanted to play the game, "Oh, I heard you said my name" garbage when they're probably just trying to start up trouble and vote me." (Taken from a video Confessional).
Holly
23. I have to roll the dice tonight and hope for the best. Apparently Jasmine has an idol she shared in the tribe chat but Tim seems to think that she already played it which would make my tribe mates fools.
Shelli
24. Okay what I just did was pretty evil. Now I will be probably villain and of course Queen of this tribe
Jasmine
25. I ended up talking to Jasmine and she was pretty great. Hotdogs agreed and I guess Cody did too so the plan changed. We decided instead to weaponize Jasmine and her idol. No one had talked to her except for our alliance so we could easily bring her over to our side, give ourselves a guaranteed majority, and take possesion of the idol.
Austin
26. I seriously forget Simon is there half the time. He never tries to start a convo, and I rarely start a convo with him. If there's a convo, it's 3, 4 replies long max.. It's kinda sad...... I wonder if he's Wesley.... That guy loves dropping convos
Tiffany
27. Anyway, lately I’ve been getting the ol’ “CP Threat” reputation in games, and it’s been irritating dealing with that in every game. It means I have to play from the front the whole time, which is just taxing on a number of levels, not to mention ill-advised. So, I’m consciously choosing to back away from that and fade into a more under the radar role.
Burnie
28. How is Hot Dogs this inept at literally everything. That or he is playing dumb so well, but I really don't want to give him that much credit.
Natalie
29. I'm sitting out. Of a challenge that I KNOW I can do, and a challenge that I think my less active tribe members are going to tank. It sucks. It sucks a LOT.
Dorothy
30. I'm definitely not as active as I should be right now. I forgot how time consuming orgs are tbh. Yesterday before the challenge I told my tribe that "something came up". That was a total lie. I just wanted to go see a movie with my girlfriend instead of doing the challenge.
Steaurt
31. Ian is SO intent on keeping Natalie as a shield. That's garbage. He keeps asking why I'm so scared of her, and I'm sincerely shocked that no one else seems to be at all
Dorothy
32. i think i decided i'm going to try to make good friends with Glyn too. he's a big character and i think will be good to have on my side. he's pretty likable and we both have a good sense of humor. also, the luxemburg numbers are small
Hot Dogs
33. Dustin is like cute i guess but i can tell he's trying really hard.
Holly
34. Dorothy then informed me that Mackenzie is the target, so lol k cool. I have escaped elimination once again <3
Ricky
35. (still mad that I tried "oxbowlake" 3 times but not "oxbow" on its own. WHY GOD).
Amber
36. I Also Have An Alliance With Tom Green. Tom Green Is A Monotheistic Heathen And I Wish Not To Associate With Him
Glyn
37. Fast forward to the challenge and we bombed it. I didn't put a ton of time into it because of some real life laziness/being busy but still managed to score one of our few points. I'm a fast enough typist and managed to cut my time down quite a bit with only a few attempts. Everyone else was awful though and we lost a challenge I didn't really want to. A lot could go wrong now with other people being targeted and me being forced to choose a side.
Steuart
38. The fact that Jasmine is gonna make it through this round without playing her idol is hilarious to me tho.
Ian
39. I'm voting Adrienne Curry
Jon Vito
40. I wasn't sure what to expect coming into this game. After the first challenge, I realize how strong my tribe is. I'm proud of them,but I lost a little bit of confidence in how effective I'll be. Thankfully, our team is great with communication and seem to be very helpful. When the next challenge comes up I will do my best to improve and contribute more for my tribe.
Ricky
41. I can't believe it.
I was on the right track after all. It really did have something to do with language. Hell, I even tried passwords involving scripts - katakana, hiragana, kanji, hieroglyphics...but not Cyrillic. Not the one that mattered.
And now, the idol is gone. And I was 14 hours late.
Simon
42. Instead of doing what the rest of us were doing and bouncing ideas off each other while dividing up who was going to do what, all he did was just give us this picture he had sketched for his ridic cave hiding place
Burnie
43. First off, holy shit Amber girl. You need to learn the unspoken rules of these games. minutes after the challenge you tell me hey so Austin or Nat? So I'm like alright sure... Then 2 hours later Tim's like so Amber told me Holly and Austin. And I'm sittin there like wtf girl... KEEP YOUR STORY STRAIGHT!!
Tiffany
44. Sorry for not talkin in here, I'm usually bad at updating confessionals. So far things are all going good. JV and Tom are the two planned boots simply for their inactivity. And I'm now in an alliance with my two closest boos Ian and Jaclyn, with Glyn workin in as a 4th.
Vivica
45. Also my like...reliance on Dustin is really weird because I never get too attached with someone THIS early on in the game. Like it's barely round 1 and I've already found a ride or die that I seemingly can't live without.
Him going to exile is probably actually better for my game? Just because it forces me to make connections without him. But it will probably come to the detriment of Dustin and I's actual relationship.
Cody
46. And maybe its reactionary on my part, to talk about getting rid of an option because of a challenge, but I think it’s actually indicative of a general state of affairs. There is no tribe unity, no central unit - Dorothy might be the closest thing to a leader that we have, but even she doesn’t get messages from some people.
Burnie
47. I am so glad to be here for the very first time i am so excited to play the game has just began i am so excited to see what is in store for us and for me and the tribe and everyone this is gonna be one to remember.
Ricky
48. I'm so happy i avoided tribal council. ive been doing so much schemeing at my camp that im just to paranoid for votes right now lol.
Jasmine
49. Remember when I said I wasn't going to be an emotional wreck? Well that shits just changed.
Tiffany
50. My Best Friend Is Ian And He Understands Me Like No One Else Does.
Glyn
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Post by Jasmine Trias on Sept 18, 2016 7:14:31 GMT
14. Okay lol my wifi wasnt working yesterday when I needed it most for the challenge brilliant... Now I dont feel safe at all. I mean I am sure I can work my flower power and send someone else home. I will try do something evil. If it will not work then I will go home. It is okay but I will not leave without fight. this is me 48. I'm so happy i avoided tribal council. ive been doing so much schemeing at my camp that im just to paranoid for votes right now lol. Jasmine this is not me  |
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Post by Ian Rosenberger on Sept 18, 2016 23:00:03 GMT
You got mine correct Natalie <3
I am pretty sure this one
"15. Hey yes I still exist!!! (Shocking I’m sure.) I know I haven’t given y’all a TON to work with, but I don’t REALLY have my usual stuff to talk about. Like typically I like to talk about where my game is at this moment and how I want to progress, but since I’m REALLY angling for that under the radar social type gameplay, that...hasn’t come up. Like at all.
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is Kathy but the rest of the guesses (for old and NuAmsterdam) you probably know better.
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I just like discussing things and wanted to shed more light on to that topic since I only know what I saw from my perspective, and wanted to delve a little deeper on your/burnie's side so thanks for sharing!